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Allow me to introduce myselfSubmitted by Boerboel Breeder on Sat, 10/09/2010 - 10:08.
My name is Jordan Pittman and I am a 28 year old resident of east cleveland and father of three beautiful girls. I found out about realneo from Norm Roulet. I met Norm about 3 years ago when a family member was doing work on the house that Norm was renovating in East Cleveland. Norm saw his dog George Bush a Cane Corso and wanted to know where he could get one. My cousin Fred directed him to me a Cane Corso breeder at the time. I sold Norm his beautiful Cane Corso Hexa. Norm informed me he was working heavily in our neighborhood and that we should meet up some time and he would fill me in on his plans for the Star Development area that our family business is in. So I agreed to meet with Norm and he showed me the plans that he had for the neighborhood. At that time the plan was to get the community involved with urban farming and to use technology as a way to track the urban farming. I am a firm believer that the processed foods and fast food we eat a bad for us. Because I know better I must do better.
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Norm give me a call
216-244-2088 http://boerboelpuppy.com
Rules for RealNeo
Can someone help me and point me in the direction of the rules and policies and procedures for RealNeo
Thank you in advance
http://boerboelpuppy.com
Total free for all with serious consequences
Total free for all with serious consequences
You talked to my wife this morning and we have told you to get a lawyer and explain yourself with your lawyer in person - your father Darryl Pittman Esq. will do. Do not harass me here.
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Norm you should explain
How do you justify taking my puppies and offering me no compensation? How do you do that to someone who considered you a friend? Why are you so confrontational and trying to make enemies with me. I want to talk to you plain and simple. What do we need a lawyer for now? If you are not going to give me my share say that it does not take a lawyer for you to say that. All I am looking for from you is feedback. That is why I chose to come here. You refuse to answer my phone calls you refuse to return my emails but you respond here. I prefer to settle this with you the way that we have always done things through discussion. I hope that you can see that I mean you no harm nor do I intend on harrassing you. I am just looking for some feedback because I know that you are a smart guy but I cant see how you rationalize doing this to someone who is you friend.
Your statement "You talked to my wife this morning and we have told you to get a lawyer and explain yourself with your lawyer in person - your father Darryl Pittman Esq. will do." Norm is this just another hoop that you would like for me to jump through to make an excuse to not give me compensation like the whole STOLEN COMPUTER piece.
The prosecutor is the one in South Euclid. It is only one there. Speaking from the heart I don't understand why I being tied in with Mick. He was my cousins boyfriend. Then he choked her and I never seen him again. I never do want to see him again the way he has disrespected my family. I told Norm that I did not want to meet with him if (Mick) would be there because of the incident with him assaulting my cousin..I did not want to be in his presence.My cousin pressed charges on him because she never wants to see him again. He is a savage. She has not see him since the day he assaulted her. That day she called the South Euclid Police on him she got a restraining order.
To: jordan pittman <jrdnpittman [at] yahoo [dot] com>
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 10:40:01 PM
Subject: Re: I have some one here from Texas interested
I did receive your email. I talked to Norm and he still wants nothing to do with you unless you assist in getting his stolen computer back.
The puppies are doing very well.
Evelyn
At this point Norm it is not about the money or the puppies it is the principal. Aren't we supposed to be the good guys? That means that we do not take advantage of each other and we don't do things that harm one another.
The worst part of this all is that people warned me about you. They said you were crazy but that did not bother me because they say that I am crazy. I think that you have some good ideas but you are bad at communicating them to others and when things don't go exactly as planned you have a tantrum. But show me one person in this world who doesn't have a flaw. Not one of us is perfect.
God Bless
My Email sent Sept, 4th
From: jordan pittman <jrdnpittman [at] yahoo [dot] com>
To: Evelyn Kiefer-Roulet <evelyn [dot] kiefer [at] gmail [dot] com>
Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 11:11:50 PM
Subject: Re: Boerboel puppies
With all due respect. I propose that we flip a coin to determine the first pick. Then go back forth making selections. To deal with the puppy that lost an eye she should be automatically the 1st pick. Whoever takes her will have 5 pups to compensate for the lost eye. Then I can announce the litter with half of the puppies belonging to you and the other half belonging to me. Then the new owners of the pups will have to pay a change of ownership fee to have the transferred into their names. .
I have a long waiting list for puppies that will surely produce suitable homes for all of the puppies.
If you would like to buy my share of the litter I will accept a $4800.00 cash settlement. After I receive my cash then I will announce the litter with all of the puppies belonging to you.
If you refuse to give me my share of the puppies for any reason then I will not announce the litter. And I will pray for you so that you can see that I am your friend who has always tried to help and be supportive. I will pray that you see taking these puppies from me will not be helpful for either one of us. I pray that you see that the best route would be for us to work together.
God Bless
From: Evelyn Kiefer-Roulet <evelyn [dot] kiefer [at] gmail [dot] com>
To: jordan pittman <jrdnpittman [at] yahoo [dot] com>
Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 4:49:04 PM
Subject: Boerboel puppies
Jordan,
I would prefer we communicate through email to have a written record of what is said. Let's disregard the stolen computer issue for now. You can consider my tone respectful.
I have some interested buyers. I am offering the dogs as pet quality for $1500.
Can you provide the papers now? I remember you said something about papers after all puppies are sold.
If you can provide the papers now what kind of deal can you offer to provide me with papers for the whole litter?
Evelyn
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Evelyn M. Kiefer-Roulet
Assistant to the Director
The John and Mildred Putnam Sculpture Collection
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
ph. 216-368-4951
cell. 216-224-8671
fax. 216-368-4681
"Ars Longa, Vita Brevis Est"
You and your prayers
You and your prayers - pray for Mayor Norton's soul for distributing pornography of Mayor Brewer - this is all about corruption
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Sorry for reposting
The prosecutor is the one in South Euclid. It is only one there. Speaking from the heart I don't understand why I being tied in with Mick. He was my cousins boyfriend. Then he choked her and I never seen him again. I never do want to see him again the way he has disrespected my family. I told Norm that I did not want to meet with him if (Mick) would be there because of the incident with him assaulting my cousin..I did not want to be in his presence.
My cousin pressed charges on him because she never wants to see him again. He is a savage. She has not see him since the day he assaulted her. That day she called the South Euclid Police on him she got a restraining order.
What does Norm want me to do?
From: Evelyn Kiefer-Roulet <evelyn [dot] kiefer [at] gmail [dot] com>
To: jordan pittman <jrdnpittman [at] yahoo [dot] com>
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 10:40:01 PM
Subject: Re: I have some one here from Texas interested
I did receive your email. I talked to Norm and he still wants nothing to do with you unless you assist in getting his stolen computer back.
The puppies are doing very well.
Evelyn
JOrdan
From: Evelyn Kiefer-Roulet <evelyn [dot] kiefer [at] gmail [dot] com>
To: jordan pittman <jrdnpittman [at] yahoo [dot] com>
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 2:15:27 PM
Subject: Re: I have some one here from Texas interested
Jordan
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Evelyn M. Kiefer-Roulet
Assistant to the Director
The John and Mildred Putnam Sculpture Collection
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
ph. 216-368-4951
cell. 216-224-8671
fax. 216-368-4681
"Ars Longa, Vita Brevis Est"
--
Evelyn M. Kiefer-Roulet
Assistant to the Director
The John and Mildred Putnam Sculpture Collection
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, Ohio 44106
ph. 216-368-4951
cell. 216-224-8671
fax. 216-368-4681
"Ars Longa, Vita Brevis Est"
We will not deal with you without a lawyer
We will not deal with you without a lawyer - I will call your father for you.
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I'll help you clear things up.... with Mick and Russ
I'll help you clear things up.... with Mick and Russ - here is the email I just sent them...
No stealing computers or puppies allowed in EC.
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computer has nothing to do with me
And you know this very well. You GAVE them the computer. That is how you justify taking my share of the puppies? What makes you think they care about you harming me.
I didn't give anyone the Bigbang
I didn't give anyone the Bigbang and you saying I did is pretty good proof you are conspiring with them.
We'll deal with the police on this.
You, your dad, Mick and Russ are big reasons why I have given up on East Cleveland completely.
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How did they get the
How did they get the computer then Norm? If they came to your house and stole it I am sure that you would have called the cops immediately. I know you gave them the computer because you told me you gave it to them? Now share with all of us the reasons that they have for not giving the computer back and why you did not call the police when it was stolen? Because it was not stolen you gave it to them. That is not a criminal matter it is a civil matter.
You are well known in the dog community, and not liked.
Mick's threats of violence and intimidation are criminal - so is stealing a test computer.
So is how you treat your dogs - we have had other Boerboel breeders in the area tell us they would never let you have one of their dogs, and we agree.
You are well known in the dog community, and not liked.
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According to Keith Winston
you are the person who began acting in an aggressive manner toward Mick screaming and cursing. and having a tantrum. For the last time I have nothing to do with you Mick Russ and this computer. Has nothing to do with you not giving me my share of the puppies.
Keith will have to give depositions and testify
Keith will have to give depositions and testify. As you well know, Mick is a very dangerous animal - did your relative start him strangling her?
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Mick is a man just like me and you
he bleeds when he is cut. None of us is immortal. I think that calling him very dangerous animal is a stereotypical comment. Mick was your friend and they say birds of a feather flock together. So I guess that makes you a dangerous animal with you malicous acts meant to cause harm to my innocent family. I do not know what happened between him and my relative and it is not my concern.
Mick strangled your relative
Mick strangled your relative and you call him a man - I call him a horrible animal.
Do you strangle women - men? Are you sick?
He threatened and intimidated me and I will not deal with him - I asked Russ to deal with him, as Russ is responsible for the computer, and Russ will not deal with him. Now they are accomplices - are you their accomplice and what other crimes are you committing?
Doesn't seem anyone can deal with Mick - our locks are changed and I'm glad this is all public in case something horrible happens to my family.
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Your family is one of the most political around...
Your family is one of the most political around... any Kappas... connections to Norton... Jones... Forbes... people who have really fucked this place up????
Obviously the East Side didn't get this fucked up because of the simple people here, like me... it was made fucked up by fucked up leadership, like your family.
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Norm you do not have to be afraid
of Mick.
God Bless
He sure as fuck wouldn't agree with you on that
He sure as fuck wouldn't agree with you on that - he PROMISED to fuck me up and stole a $5,000 computer.
God damn.
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How many dangerous animals can take
Elephant slugs to the head.
If he's gone I sure feel safer
If he's gone I sure feel safer - my family hasn't slept in peace in months.
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I have the solution for
answer for you. Pray for Mick and his family as I have done for you and yours. Pray that he sees the error in his judgement. Pray for forgiveness for him and then let the Big Bang go. Next time don't make the same foolish mistake.
No, Russ is going to have to pay for giving the Bigbang to Mick
No, Russ is going to have to pay for giving the Bigbang to Mick
Russ is Mr. Raw Media professional and took on testing Bigbang and he needs to return it or pay.
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Only Norm is right
You have 2 ears and 2 eyes 1 mouth. Look and listen half as much as you run your mouth.
No, the witnesses are right too
No, the witnesses are right too
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I'm sure right about lead poisoning...
I'm sure right about lead poisoning and coal poisoning... I've learned the easy way and my whole family has learned the hard way... becoming world experts... too bad you and the people of this community don't hear. Your dad too.
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Thank to you Norm and Real Neo
I became aware of the coal power plant and more informed about air pullution in our community. And it was because I wanted to learn more about what is going on I sought this information. As you know I have children with some degree of lead poisining. We have done the best we can to eleminate lead in our house. We are well aware of the effects of lead poisining has on pregnant women and children.
As one person all I can do is tell others and spread the word. When I do I find out that they dont know either. In the mean time we sill have our lives to live day to day.
To your comment
I'm sure right about lead poisoning and coal poisoning... I've learned the easy way and my whole family has learned the hard way... becoming world experts... too bad you and the people of this community don't hear. Your dad too.
My dad the people of our community do hear very clear. But when call your own children "totally dorked out" curse, yell, and call women bitches we see that you lack respect and begin to tune you out.
I chalked the time we spent (never wasted) together with as a learning experience. The lesson We may have good ideas but if we are out of control and disrespectful we fail at communicating and the ideas don't matter. In business we have to control ourselves bro. Take a chill pill!
Will you learn your lesson.
God Bless
To whoever you are
To whoever you are - stop the corruption
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And yes my kids are lead poisoned
And yes my kids are lead poisoned - Max was dorked out for a long time - and it is the fault of families like yours... the Mayors and such. The ones calling the shots in EC for decades now - the ones keeping it lead poisoned and fucked up...
Which bitch are you talking about? The councilwomen who agreed to let MCCO build another coal plant in my neighbothood? So stupid she said she thought burning coal was safe... that bitch? Yeah, I got a lot of respect for her.
These corrupt sell-out and/or ignorant leaders cost our families their lives and make our property worthless - they don't get no respect for that.
BTW - WHERE WERE ALL OF YOU FOR THE MCCO HEARING?
SELL-OUTS!
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Calm down you are not nice
You will catch more flies with honey rather than vinegar.
Norm so do you know everything?
People learn new things all the time.
Living in EC I learned my Mayor was a crossdresser
Living in EC I learned my Mayor was a crossdresser from the Council President showing me pictures on his cellphone of the Mayor naked - the Council President (Gary Norton) was running for Mayor, using the pictures to discredit his opponent - and Commissioner Jones et al in the party knew about it... that I confirmed - and it seems the mainstream media knew about it and had the stollen pictures - and a city employee was distributing the pictures - and it was all used to cause harm against citizens like my family - and all the people involved in causing harm are sellouts to MCCO - there is nothing here to be nice about - this city is a corrupt freakshow.
And you, whose dad was EC City Manager and is now a big time lawyer, did all this fucked up shit with Greit and are harassing us and will not get a lawyer to resolve the differences when your dad is a lawyer - please - at this point I just consider myself to be debating here with Mayor Norton.
Any other Kappas in the house?
I'm trying to learn some new things... like who else Gary Norton distributed naked paictures of Mayor Brewer to, and who stole the pictures for Norton, for starters.
I'm just beginning to learn about the real EC - the Pittmans' EC
Shut down the powerplant!
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Name calling = childish
Its about respect Norm. Do you think that makes you tuff to call women bitches? The dog doing all the barking doesnt want the drama he is bluffing. The guy doing all the tough talking and emotional is the wimp.
That is them people let them live their lives as long as they are not interfereing with me I dont give a hoot.
The BITCH is fucking up my world
The BITCH is fucking up my world and I give a fuck for my family and for those around me... even your kids.
If you think I'm bluffing, ask the bitch.
And see how fast MCCO stops burning coal since I've attacked the motherfuckers - not nice in the slightest... ask my dad... ask his friends at University Hospitals, Case, and Jones Day.
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Why attack me?
I want to know.
I didn't attack you, I said get a lawyer
I didn't attack you, I said get a lawyer - that is what civilized people do when they have a dispute, and since your dad is a lawyer it shouldn't cost you a dime.
You have attacked me, over and over... total harassment and no lawyer.
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Why not just give me my share like we had agreed
Follow through on your end of the deal instead of making excuses.
That is what I thought civilized people do. Man to man.
Call your dad
Call your dad
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Hush little baby dont say a
word Good night Real Neo. See you tomorrow.
God Bless
You are a dog theif
If you are not return my dog to me and give me my share for the pups. You made an agreement with me in regards to the dog. But the responsibility is Evelyns. How many piles of puppy poo did you clean and your wife is caring for 3 small children at home everyday, I have a wife and I know what it mean to take care of children very demanding. It is about respect Norm.
My agreement was with you about the dog You put the responsibility on her you told me to deal with her. You told me you did not give a “shit” about those pups and you did not even want to talk about them.
Evelyn and I both thought the pups needed some and help and she had agreed to let me take them but out of RESPECT for her husband she thought to check with you before they left. You made an assumption in feeling as though I was going to take the dogs and not give you credit of the money for that.
Well while you are checking and keeping tabs on how I raise the dog, ask the same people that I have agreements with if I have ever cheated them out of any money. No I am a man of my word and help my fellow man because a man stands by his word not run and get lawyers. That's what someone does when they just want money lawyer up!
And answer me this how are you selling the pups with out the any paper work. What lies have you told.
We tell people a psycho got our dog raped
We tell people a psycho got our dog raped and the puppies don't have papers because the guy who had the dog raped is insane and won't ask his dad to help him draw up some paperwork to resolve a mess he caused. Probably a pattern here...
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Way over the top
Evil liar
What do you want to draw up saying. Since you are the one making the request you get a lawyer to draw up the paper work then Ill sign it.
Waiting for the excuses? First it was about the computer. now its lawyer Just make me an offer what do you think that I deserve.
We've consulted with Boerboel breeders in the area
We've consulted with Boerboel breeders in the area about the situation and they basically say you are a bad breeder and to stay away from you.
As for what you are entitled to for getting someone's dog raped... they say disrespect.
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They are my competition
And I breed boerboels that are some of the best in the world.
The Boerboels do all the work
The Boerboels do all the work - you just cash in on them and get rid of them when they aren't productive... we have the proof of that,,,, and still you got her knocked up trying to cash in one more fucking time.
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You're like some punk who got my daughter pregnant
You're like some punk who got my daughter pregnant and didn't want to marry or take care of her or the baby but wants to sell the baby and get half the money - fucking insane.
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You have no idea
Of the struggle I have been through with my dogs to get me where I am at today. You have not done any work raising puppies. Evelyn did all the work and I am sure that she can tell you that you do not just have puppies then cash in. But do you listen.
It's been hell
It's been hell - thanks for the great experience
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Next time maybe you should listen
I tried to tell you raising pups in the kitchen was a bad idea.
We thought they deserved a good life
We thought they deserved a good life - unlike your dogs
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Your daughter? that is my dog
That I retired to your home because you lied to me and said that Evelyns mom was a proffessional dog walker who cared very deeply for dogs and she would be on a farm. Not confined to your backyard? How many walks did you take that dog for? I have the title to the dog because I paid for her. Did you pay for her? No she was retired to your home meaning never to breed again . But we decided to bring her out of retirement.
We are not your fucking Motel 6
We are not your fucking Motel 6 - you are trash.
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I will not have people harass me who have family ties to MCCO
I will not have people harass me who have family ties to MCCO and corrupt leadership in East Cleveland.
Get a lawyer.
You are attacking a member - me - and you are blocked.
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Call Evelyn about picking up your dog
Call Evelyn about picking up your dog - that'll save us like $10,000 over the rest of her life.
You can work out payments for her boarding fees while she has been here....
And get a lawyer to deal with the puppies.
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We would never give you a dog because you treat them wrong
We would never give you a dog because you treat them wrong - we offered to work with a lawyer to determine what you are entitled to for getting our dog raped and you never got a lawyer.
Get a lawyer.
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We had an agreement
I am entitled to my share of the puppies that you agreed to provide me with.
I offered to split the puppies if you helped raise them
I offered to split the money from the puppies if you helped us raise them - came every night to feed them - provided food. You didn't do any of that and the puppies cost a small fortune we did not have - great hardship and tons of work, day in and out - house is a mess... you did this to us.
Of course, you stick your puppies in a vacant garage so you don't care...
Lots of excuses - no help.
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Why don't you help yourself with Mick and Russ
There is no misunderstanding with Mick Russ and I.
Mick is a threat to our family - we'll let the authorities deal
Mick is a threat to our family - we'll let the authorities deal with all of this.
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? Are we men or boys?
Really. First you refuse to deal with me unless I assist in getting your stolen computer back. Now you refuse to deal with me without a lawyer. Lets put it out in the open. You refuse to give me my share of the litter period.
I am not going to get a lawyer for anything.That is not my style. In the business I have done prior to dealing with you there has never been a reason for me to get a lawyer. And I am not about 2 start now. I want to talk to you and hear your reasoning behind your actions. lets come to an understanding. I am human and do make mistakes. If I erred in dealing with you I would like to know how and when so that I can better myself and be a better example for others in the future. Norm we do not have to agree but we should still be able to have constructive conversation.
God Bless
You shouldn't have ditched a dog on us and then got her pregnant
You shouldn't have ditched a dog on us and then got her pregnant and ditched on us, her and the puppies. How complicated is that?
And you shouldn't have tried to steal the puppies after we had to raise them - and you shouldn't be harassing us anywhere!
There are reasons in the world for lawyers - the son of a lawyer should appreciate that.
I'm contacting your dad - he should work for you pro bono.
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Ditched? You must be HALLUCINATING
The great thing I like about Real Neo is the content is still here http://realneo.us/content/without-dutch-french-and-british-human-and-can... You yourself know that I retired the dog to you because I wanted to do right by the dog that had served me so well. You wanted puppies so I made the suggestion we should breed Greit based on her condition at the time. How did I ditch the puppies on you when I was there from day one bottle feeding a 2 -3 times a day? How did I ditch the pups when you refused to answer my calls? How did I ditch the pups when I requested my share of the litter as soon as they were old enough to leave their mother? How did I try to steal the pups when I made the suggestion that you let me take the puppies and care for them because Evelyn and I thought that they looked weak and dehydrated? Last time I checked the law the was not a charge of attempted theft. I might be mistaken cirrect me if I am wrong but I think in order for a theft to occur something must be stolen.
You are a liar
You are a liar and need a lawyer.
You should have left Greit in retirement... she may cost a fortune for us to feed but everyone was happy.
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Norm if the do was a problem
Why didn't you bring up all these issues before we shookhands? Sound like more excuses. Computer Lawyer Theft people don't like me. ETC
No, I think you are part of the fucked up system here
No, I think you are part of the fucked up system here out to cause good people harm, and your attacks here today are part of the fight against me by corrupt people here intent to protect the coal burning powerplant, and polluters like Senator Brown and all the corrupt democrats who aren't in jail yet.
I'm really starting to get interested in the history of EC politicos and economic development now... following the money back to when your dad and Forbes were in charge.... the Topps deal and all that... we can only move forward by getting to the true root of the corruption here, going all the way to the beginning of the end...
On our account, we paid you $600 for Hexa (did you declare that income Jordan), and my family paid your relative Fred $500 or more for work on Roxbury, and my family paid another relative of yours over $1000 to remove a tree in Shaker, and we paid him over $1000 to remove a tree on Roxbury, and got him many other referrals...
And we took on Greit as a favor to you, which costs us like $20 a week in food... and you took her and got her pregnant for like the 6th time in her life - too many times - and you give us shit on realNEO.
FUCK YOU... you are the next generation of ruination of this community, and talk of God.
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Norm I asked you to call
I need to get this off my chest and real neo is a great place for it. Lets let the public decide since we can't resolve this privately.
I can't just sit back and let you use another person ever in life. I do not want to fight we could have kept this in private but you want me to jump through hoops. Computer Lawyer Theft Etc.....
The last personal contact I needed was a threat to my family
The last personal contact I needed was a threat to my family - when Mick threatened me and my family the locks were changed on our door.... no bullshit and bullshit artists allowed here any more. Get a lawyer.
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So I guess thats why you are moving?
Evelyn must be tired of you
King of bullshiting
What part of there is a coal plant next door don't you get?
What part of there is a coal plant next door don't you get? Anyone living here is a fool. And don't blame me... blame your dad.
Other people can thank me for stoppoing the coal burning sooner than later and stopping MCCO from building another coal plant in EC.
Your dad can hide in shame.
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People take notes
Norm look at his level of respect. I have not cursed at you one time. Actually it was the 5th pregnancy whether that is too many os a matter of opinion. What did you want my family to work for you for free? Sound like everytime our family did work for you we showed love. We ain't your slaves.
Your family did business the right ways with us
Your family did business the right ways with us and you did not.
I made business agreements with your family and paid for what was agreed - simple stuff.
Get a lawyer.
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Liar ? now comes the name calling.
Norm grow up!!!
You wanted puppies...
"You wanted puppies" is sure as hell a lie - we never talked about breeding Greit and when you learned she was in heat you came to my house when I wasn't there, without asking me anything about breeding her, and took Greit from Evelyn, got her pregnant, and brought her back to us to deal with, and then starting pushing us around for her puppies - and came to the house when they were old enough to sell and tried to take them from Evelyn - I told her if you touched them or caused any more problems to call the cops.
The same week you tried to steal the puppies was the week Mick intimidated and threatened me, and I learned Mick and Russ were stealing the Bigbang test computer I asked Russ to benchmark with some video production - he is supposed to be in that business..
All of you claimed to want to help make EC better, but all have refused to do the right things to like help fight lead poisoning and the powerplant here... all as your dad was in charge of EC before the most corrupt Mayor in Ohio history, and your family has certainly done well through it all...
Now you bring your poison to realNEO - just as your family democratic politicos are in deep shit for their corruption and evil - trying to harm me and my family publicly... lovely city you have here.
Like I said, time for the authorities...
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