I know there are lots of nasty chemical plants in the Flats and so lots of trucks coming out carrying nasty chemicals. I wonder are there any restrictions on toxic material transport through this residential neighborhood, especially as you show it is a hazard for trucks.

Perhaps trucks should not be allowed through here at all.

What was this one carrying?

Great photojournalism, capturing a story the mainstream media doesn't have the resources to cover.

Disrupt IT

I was told it was some type of powder - and that it was over the load limit also.

NO, the roundabout was designed for big trucks to go around - there is extra width in the area where the trucks coming up out of Steelyard actually enter the turn.  One of the problems is that there are big trucks carrying tar that travels that area on a regular basis and some of the tar drippage causes the pavement to be slick - which creates a slide if the big trucks are traveling at fast speeds.

By the way, I neglected to mention that the driver was only banged up a bit - so serious injuries to my knowledge. 

One interesting aspect of the enitre ordeal was the police officers trying to "handle" the heavy traffic.  West 14th Street was blocked off at Clark and traffic traveling South was diverted to Valentine via Scranton to access 480 West and I 71 South.  But the traffic exiting off of I 71 North, 176 and coming up from the Steelyard was crazy.  They were making u-turns, back the other way, traffic coming around had to be held up for some of the turners to back up, the police were heard yelling , "you can't go that way, it's a $100 if you do,"  Because the flowers and grass was so high in the middle, the police couldn't see the vehicles u-turning from 176 back to I 71 South.  Some of the vehicles came around the circle speeding and the police were yelling for them to slow down.  The on-lookers were yelling, "give 'em a ticket."  The eye witness actually talked with some of the cops before I got there and he said he ask one of the officers if the truck driver would be getting a ticket.  He siad the cop told him that was personal and that he could not say if he or would not be getting cited.

The eye witness also told me that this was the third big truck that had flipped this year.  Since he lives right there, his one big concern was what if that had been a gas tanker since the sewer lines ran right down over the hill past his house and an explosion could wipe out the entire area.

This certaintly had the potential for being a tragedy and even after this truck flipped, with the traffic mess still at full speed, it's a miracle that there were no pile-ups - especially with the vehicles trying to go back the wrong way. 

  Great job Jerleen--Norm is also correct about Hazmat concerns....there is no oversight or signage there, either.  Certain routes are prohibited from hazardous material traffic. We all need to look at NOACA--our MPO more closely.

A cyclist obeying the law and using the curb lane for commuting would have been squashed by this truck.  Jerleenn, you are right to be concerned about this round-about.  It is not engineered and/or monitored for safe speed--perhaps the paving needs to be straited to force a slow down.
 

I hope that you are staying out of the circle. There are other ways to get to steelyards and 176. 

Hello Jerleen,

This  report of yours gets consistent traffic. 

And I beieve the report will lead to improvement of safety at the intersection, and other rotaries around the world.  Here's why:

When highway and city planners Google "roundabout", your report will appear.  Studies will then need to be conducted to find the radius of the W14 rotary, the surface friction, etc, etc. 

Additionally, there will be lawsuits about the chronic back pain that the truck driver experienced since he flipped his rig over - medical and transport experts will be deposed - your report will confirm that on a dry sunny day a bright blue tractor trailer (nice pic) just up and dumps at this rotary. Medical damages will be paid.

Slowly, conditions will change and improve. 

I bet your report will save a life or two down the road.

Best, Jeff b

PS I used to have a CDL and could legally drive 18 wheelers, overweight, overwidth, and anything but a motorcycle!

Ok, I went and looked at the searches which accessed your report and several today came in from the LA County Fire Department hazmat team.  I bet that training in the Los Angeles County fire department is using your report for haz mat training.  (i notice the bag of speedy dry on the grass in your image - used to sop up oil and fuel spills). 

So the hazmat training is a use I had not considered. 

The point here is that everyone's original content reported on realneo has potential for far reaching impacts.   Think LARGE.  ACT LOCALLY - IMPACT GLOBALLY. 

I believe it, anyway....